Della and Brandy McLain, founder of Modern House Numbers, are digging in to discuss all things house number. From current requirements to history, plus tons of great style tips!
If you’ve been thinking about giving your home’s exterior a fresh look, you’ll want to keep reading!
Super Simple Upgrades
We all know that small changes can make a big impact, right? That’s right where Brandy and I kicked off our conversation. I’ve always been a fan of small tweaks that bring a home’s exterior to life. Swapping out old carriage lights for sleek globe lights or upgrading your mailbox can instantly modernize your modest mid-century home. And the right house numbers can make a big statement!
Going Big on Your Home
For mid-century homes we both recommend bold choices for your house numbers. Don’t be afraid to think big. Larger numbers are easier to see and make a striking statement. Consider going vertical by your garage door or integrating numbers into an accent fence. There’s no such thing as “too big” when it comes to house numbers!
Historical and Practical Perspectives
Bigger numbers may be trendy, but they are also very practical. Brandy reminded me that, as much as we like to focus on style, visibility for visitors and emergency services is the real purpose for house numbers. House numbers are for wayfinding and came into use during the 19th century as cities and public services expanded. During the industrial revolution house numbers became an essential planning tool. In the US we do have some standards, for example odd and even numbers on opposite sides of the street. Sizes vary from as small as three inches to very large formats.
Bigger Really IS Better
Smaller house number formats suffice for pedestrians and cyclists – walking postal carriers, neighbors taking the sidewalk over for a gathering.
But in our modern, car-oriented neighborhoods larger numbers really do make for better visibility for visitors, deliveries and emergency services. And visibility is (almost) the entire purpose of house numbers. For snowy areas, elevating your numbers can prevent them from being obscured by drifts. Lighting is another key factor! Well-lit house numbers are essential for nighttime visibility.
We wrapped up our chat by diving into current trends. Larger house numbers are definitely in vogue, and for good reason—they stand out and add a modern touch to any home. Brandy’s tips on using contrasting colors to ensure your numbers pop were spot on. And while trends come and go, choosing timeless styles and colors will keep your home looking fresh and chic for years to come.
Ready to get inspired? Head over to Modern House Numbers to explore some fabulous options and see how they can transform your curb appeal. And as always, stay tuned to Mid Mod Remodel for more tips on creating your perfect mid-century exterior!
In Today’s Episode You’ll Hear:
- Why we have house numbers in the first place.
- How (and how not) to incorporate house numbers into your landscaping.
- Which creative placement ideas Della and Brandy love.
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Read the Full Episode Transcript
Della Hansmann
the very easiest thing you can do to spiff up your house on the outside is make a few find/replace style updates to the details. For example, you can replace colonial style carriage lights by your garage door with more modern globe lights, switch out a boring mailbox for a colorful mod box, upgrade your house members.
Della Hansmann
But I don’t actually recommend a simple find/replace option for house numbers. Instead, I encourage you to dream a little bigger, metaphorically. And literally. For instance, you might take off those little hard to see house numbers by the front door and pop in a more dramatic vertical stack of them on the face of the house by the garage door, or an accent fence or incorporated into the landscaping.
Della Hansmann
Plus you can literally make them bigger, too big isn’t really possible for house numbers in my opinion. Today, I’m sharing a trio of chats I recently had with brandy McLain, founder of modern house numbers, and we’ll be digging into topics of how to fit numbers into your landscaping and creative ways. The right size for practical factors like Municipal Code and visibility, but also how to get bonus style points.
Della Hansmann
And because I love to share the really nerdy stuff with you, Brandy is gonna give us a little history on why we have house numbers in the first place and how they’ve changed over time in this country. Hey there, welcome back to mid mod remodel.
Della Hansmann
This is the show about updating MCM homes, helping you match a mid-century home to your modern life. I’m your host Della Hansmann architect and mid-century ranch enthusiast, you’re listening to Episode 1804. Brandy, by the way is more than the go to person for great advice on stylish House members. She’s a fellow Architecture School grad and friend of the pod.
Della Hansmann
We chatted last March episode 1111. If you’re curious about all things Front of House upgrade, she is a good time, make sure to give modern house numbers follow. And you do you do want this because their website and their social media feed are just filled with fun photos of great houses that support their product. And you can get inspired both to pick out new house numbers for your house, as well as just see a bunch of sweet modern and mid-century houses featured.
Della Hansmann
So I’ll pop all the links, you need to follow modern house numbers in the show notes page, find that at midmod-midwest.com/1804. Here we go.
Della Hansmann
There are more places to put house numbers than just on your house. So what would you say are what do you think of obvious places to buy a house number? And then maybe what are some less than obvious places you could put house numbers? Should you have more than one place?
Brandy McLain
That’s true. Yeah, I think the most obvious obviously is probably next to your front door or on your garage or your mailbox. But if we’re thinking about landscape design, you know, I think there’s a great opportunity to incorporate it within your existing design or to create a new element to like highlight the house numbers.
Brandy McLain
But if you do have a curb, you can do a curb stencil, and have no house numbers along their streets. And you know, the most important thing, though, I think to consider when placement is thinking about lighting, you know, don’t only want to think of where your house numbers located during the day, which we often do and we’re selecting.
Brandy McLain
So you know, things to consider if you’re a mid-century modern enthusiast, like yourself Della, is maybe you have a breeze wall. And that’s a great place to accents and house numbers. Or maybe there’s a planter in your yard or large boulder, or there’s a column near your entryway, or even a landscape fence. Or, you know, there’s always opportunity at the curb, but you might not have mailbox along the street.
Brandy McLain
But considering where your existing lighting is, or if you would add new, maybe solar landscape lights to apply your numbers to make sure they’re visible at night. And then also one thing that we hear from customers, as you know, if you’re redoing your whole landscaping in the front, you want to think about obstacles that could possibly grow and block your house numbers. Don’t plant a small bush that then might grow five feet and block the house members.
Della Hansmann
Not unless you want to do that sort of traditional mid-century thing where you’re out there with the trimmer every year cutting a flattop, which is a choice if you want to have a super time capsule house, but not exactly what maintenance.
Brandy McLain
Yes, exactly. Exactly. And you know, visibility is always key. It’s great to have pick numbers that accent your style, but if they’re not visible for the street, or emergency responders, then we kind of missed the boat. And then also, you know, I think there is an opportunity to maybe match the existing architecture style when you’re picking a color of the finish for example, or some landscape elements.
Brandy McLain
We live in the Southwest for example, we live in Tucson, Arizona, and in our house number we have a lot of rusted steel, and so we’ve selected bronze powder coated numbers because it kind of matches our, you know, earth tones of our landscape as well as the features of our home. So I think those are some other I, you know, things to consider when you’re selecting your house number location.
Della Hansmann
Yeah, so if people already have a yard, they’re not planning to make big changes to the yard, they might look for any fence or vertical element, would you ever attach house numbers to an alive things like a tree? Or is that not a good idea?
Brandy McLain
You know, we have had people do that. You know, I don’t, I can’t speak to that. I haven’t seen it in person to see how we have had particularly you know, back east where some people have some really large, monumental trees, or cabins, we’ve seen it to where someone might install, like vertical house numbers down a large trunk. And then I think the other natural landscape thing that we see often that people use are boulders, whether they bring in the large boulder, or they use a boulder that’s on their property already.
Della Hansmann
Yeah. And then if people were thinking about updating the landscaping, at the same time, it might be a place to put in a boulder or build a little fence element or create some sort of a backing visual that is for the House members, specifically, when you think about in a landscape, is there? Do you have recommendations of like how close back to the house versus how far out to the street, you would think about being a good idea, a great idea, or maybe a no goes on?
Brandy McLain
Yes. That’s a great question. Because we were talking about the importance of visibility, it really depends on the distance from the street, whether someone’s walking or vehicles coming up to your home, and the location of how far it’s set back. So, you know, if you’re right along the street friend, I, you know, four inches great, I would see our most typical residential sizes six inch, but some customers, you know, are barely set back.
Brandy McLain
And then besides, if there may be like a football length back from the street to use more like eight or 12 inch, there’s also the opportunity to install something on the street, and then also have something on your home. Because if you’re driving down a lane and you know, turning the corner, by the time you get to the home, there might be a couple houses there and you’re not sure which is the right location.
Della Hansmann
Right. I guess there’s also the question of attaching health numbers to a mailbox or to the standard mailbox if you are an area that has street adjacent mailboxes, and the stencil for that right or, and/or stickers.
Brandy McLain
Yeah, we, we offer a vinyl decal so you could stick them on a mailbox or any smooth surface really, and then a curb stencils where it comes with like a negative space and you can spray paint the numbers and then remove the stencil.
Della Hansmann
Sounds like so much fun. I feel like I don’t see that in the Midwest. But in the sort of California streetscape that seems like a real go to move.
Brandy McLain
And it’s a very southwest thing that and you know, Colorado, Arizona, Utah, or, you know, California, we have a lot of curb stencils.
Della Hansmann
Best, you probably don’t want to mount your house numbers anywhere that’s low enough, they could be subsumed by snow. Actually, my own house numbers, modern house numbers are on a little fence that I built, basically to hold house numbers and also just sort of define that front sidewalk.
Della Hansmann
As I think about it, there are many seasons of the year where the curb in Wisconsin is completely invisible. So that’s just not as useful a visual marker. Again, you were thinking like day to night, you’ve got to also think seasonally.
Della Hansmann
And I actually they’re, they’re a little over two feet up off the ground. And there are times in the winter, where if I’m throwing snow off the sidewalk and the driveway too aggressively, it’ll pile up and start to block the house numbers. So then I have to just remember to throw to the other side.
Brandy McLain
Absolutely.
Della Hansmann
No lower would be a would be a good rule of thumb in the Midwest, not lower than two feet.
Brandy McLain
We don’t have to consider in Tucson, Arizona. But that’s a really good comment.
Brandy McLain
Della Hansmann
It’s probably why the curb stencils work there. And but you could always have both if you really wanted to curb stencil. Yeah, and then I think from an as a as an architect, as a person who likes to build objects, I always am looking for an opportunity but House members on a little fence or if they were gonna go on a mailbox to make a little micro fence extension for the mailbox post and kind of give it a bit more solidity and put house numbers on that. So the examples are many and your Instagram account is always a great place to go to see other people’s good ideas for how that has worked out. Marvelous. Well, any last thoughts on how to place numbers in a landscape? Now
Brandy McLain
I think those are all great ideas and suggestions to get to consider. Excellent.
Della Hansmann
Well, this has been a pleasure. Let’s do it again.
Della Hansmann
What’s the right side is for house numbers on your house? So today, I’ve got a real treat because brandy has teased to me that she has some history of the sizing of house numbers to get into and I don’t know what it is. And I’m super excited. So let’s talk about what’s the right size for house number sizes, the right size for house numbers today and in the past and why that has changed.
Brandy McLain
Great. Well, I’m super excited to be here. It’s always great to see your data and to have these fun conversations. And yes, you know, I didn’t know a whole lot about the history of house numbers either. So it was fun to dive in a little bit deeper before our conversation today.
Della Hansmann
Lovely. So now let’s start with a practical recommendation. And we’ve talked in our last chat about how maybe the further you are from the street, the bigger you might want to go with house numbers. But do you have maybe a rule of thumb if you’ve got a standard, maybe 30 foot setback? What’s a good house number size? Default today?
Brandy McLain
Sure. You know, again, I think the top thing to consider is visibility visiting visited a facility is so important, particularly for first responders and important deliveries. You know, I think the probably the most common house number signs that we sell by far is six inch. If you’re probably 30 feet from the curb, you could go with four or six inch, you could really do either.
Brandy McLain
Once you get pretty far setback, you definitely need to consider a larger size like eight inch. But you know, when considering your size, don’t forget to check with their local building code to see what their requirements are as well, because every city or town has different requirements. And that can be easily looked up online.
Brandy McLain
But I guess to summarize the most important thing, when you’re selecting the size of your numbers, really consider visibility distance as you recommend it. And then looking at color contrast as well. If you have a white home, you know placing White House numbers on, it might not be the best idea, maybe trying to create a color contrast with a darker finish like black for example.
Della Hansmann
Yeah. Plus, there’s always the opportunity for a backer board. And you’ve got that great standoff feature that creates a shadow line, which doesn’t offer maximum visibility to like if it had white on white, but definitely makes it more poppy than if it wasn’t.
Brandy McLain
Absolutely or you could always build like a custom wood slatted backing for your numbers if you really want a match to create a color contrast by just adding like some kind of backing to the house numbers, and then you can add matching wall service and House members. Nice.
Della Hansmann
So how has the right size for house numbers changed over time?
Brandy McLain
That is a great, great question. You know, I think right now like it really trends, like every couple years, we see the trend of the house numbers change. So a few years back, like maybe like a four a four inch, like smaller statement was something that we saw. And now we really see like a larger statement like event is quite common for residents were five years ago, that was really more reserved for like a commercial look.
Brandy McLain
So I think people are taking the opportunity to make bolder statements, and to really express their style, or thinking of you know how sunburst is not just a functional thing, but you know, it’s like adding like jewelry to your home customers have told us or adding like a special element to express their style. And I find it really fun, because not all of our, you know, customers have a modern home, you could very traditional home, and you know, add modern numbers and you know, change kind of the aesthetics that of your existing architecture style.
Della Hansmann
And it’s fun to I mean, I think for mid-century vintage there was I think maybe the most playful thing people did in the past was to have a script written out of your number, if it has a nice flow, or if it’s really long, maybe it goes vertically. And I’m a big fan.
Della Hansmann
When we’re doing master plans for people, one of the ways we just sort of default sketching house numbers is to make them kind of as big as possible and put them maybe on the side part of a garage next to a garage door and running vertically under like big and bold, which is so much fun. And now we’ve got access to big, bold sized house numbers in nice spots from like sleep.
Brandy McLain
Thank you so much for your kind comments, but I completely agree, I think bold and vertical and black powder code are the most important, or the most not important, the most popular things that we’re seeing this year. Interesting.
Della Hansmann
Well, we’re also I mean, there’s definitely a trend in black finished windows as well. So it’s sort of tying all together.
Brandy McLain
I agree. And you know, we didn’t talk about that. But you know, I think it is really important to consider the color of your other elements like your hardware your late, your light fixture or your window mullions. And kind of matching that color when selecting house numbers, if they’re going, you know, right by the door and might be next to existing hardware, it’s fun to match that with you, they’re black, or are matte brass or dark bronze. So those are things that I think are important design decisions that you can make when selecting your house numbers.
Yeah, and there’s a lot of individual choice in that. But I, my preference, the black I think is super on trend in in the broader remodeling space. But for a mid-century house, I mostly steer clear of that. And I would send someone to a brass or a dark bronze, probably preferentially as I feeling a little more timeless.
Della Hansmann
And honestly, steering away from the fact that black is trendy, just looking for more of a curatorial approach to this house is going to be this way for a long time. You can’t change your house numbers, but yours are built to last. So it’s nice to make a decision that’s going to be aesthetically pleasing for a long time as well as sturdy for a long time.
Brandy McLain
Absolutely. And you don’t have to follow the trend, it’s okay to be different because that trend will change. So I’m kind of like you’d like to get a timeless color. And in fact, we have bronze house numbers in our own home.
Della Hansmann
And I think I’m not sure you had the dark browns when I got mine. But I got I got the matte brass and I like them very much. So yeah, it works great. So yeah, I think and when you look back on like a super vintage house, if you’ve got a time capsule house, you’re moving into an updating, you might find that what it has instead is those little they they’re metal they have a slight curvature in them but they’re basically flat and they just nail with two teeny, little finish nails to the house. Are those even four inches high? Sometimes I think they’re three inches high.
Brandy McLain
I was gonna say, I think they’re typically more like two or three inches high. And you know, I think you know, in the southwest, we see a lot of like little tiles like you were we see less of, you know, hammered in numbers, but little tiles of on homes.
Della Hansmann
And they’re cute, but they don’t they don’t have that visual punch, and they don’t finally stand right. They might not meet your code, which a lot of mid-century things. And older home things can be allowed as a grandfathered experience, but don’t meet modern code, which is all for our safety. And you want both the emergency people and the pizza delivery people to find you easily under all circumstances.
Brandy McLain
Absolutely.
Della Hansmann
It’s important. Okay, well, great. What are other fonts, anything else you want people to take away on the right size for Modern House members?
Brandy McLain
I think the only other thing to consider, like, you know, your first question was like, You know what size and I think if your home is, you know, really set back or you know, around a corner that you really should also maybe consider putting house numbers on your meal box, and then putting house numbers on your home. So to make sure that there’s the best visibility to find you and your home.
Della Hansmann
There’s no rule about too many, as far as I’m aware, and more visibility is always better. So great. Well, this has been fun. Let’s do it again soon.
Brandy McLain
Absolutely. That sounds great.
Della Hansmann
So I often think about how fun it is to add house numbers to one of my master plan designs as a design, boost a fun detail. But I can pull an ad together with trim color and little fence line details and lighting and other things like that. But house numbers serve a purpose.
Della Hansmann
And today I actually want to ask about why do we have house numbers? Like what’s the history of their existence? Are they everywhere? Where did they come about? And you might know a lot about this? I really, I really don’t. So brandy. What can you tell us about the history of house numbers in American houses?
Brandy McLain
Sure. You know, I don’t think it’s something that a lot of people consider it something that you know, is a central part of like modern urban life these days. So, house numbers were first established in America and 1856 and it was they were created during the Industrial Revolution. Rapid expansion of cities and house numbering house numbering became essential for city planning, postal deliveries and emergency services.
Brandy McLain
You know, today the global standard of house numbering is exists although it might change a little bit from country to region. For example, in the US we have a standard of one side of the street having odd number house numbers on the other side of the street haven’t even house numbers with that doesn’t carry across the world. So you know house numbering plays a critical role in not only organization of the city navigation, as well as emergency services while still providing you an opportunity to express your personal style and design.
Della Hansmann
That’s amazing. Yeah. You know, and I’ve been in Europe, and I’ve been out of Europe and places where house numbers, building numbers are not even and odd but it never actually occurred to me that that is a universal standard in the US. It is. Maybe do you know, is it like always east versus west? Or is it just opposite sides of the street in something whatever way to the street makes place?
Brandy McLain
You know, it goes, I was curious about that, too. So I actually looked that up, it can be the west or north, the south, it really just depends on the on the area.
Della Hansmann
The 50s? That’s more recent than I would have thought.
Brandy McLain
I did do. I was shocked. It was. Yeah, it was then. And you know, I think another standard thing that I saw across when I was doing my research is that you know, the standard size. Now it’s from the past, as we previously talked about warehouse numbers might be two or three inches on your home, really just from like thick, five to eight inches. So those are kind of the across the US city building code standards.
Della Hansmann
Interesting. Well, it makes sense. I mean, I think there was probably a time when a local postal carrier might have just knowing the last name of everybody on their route. And knowing what house to take things to just like telephone operators would have known how to bring through on a telephone line. But at this point, there are so many addresses and getting things so much national shipping and international shipping, that there wasn’t a system that anybody could go find that house, it wouldn’t work properly.
Della Hansmann
Although it can still make casts I regularly know ding on the Postal Service, they are overworked folks. But I regularly get mail from my house number but like two or three streets over and have to go on a dog walking and taking packages where they belong. That seems to be the most common mistake, same number wrong street, which is interesting as a statement of how much the number is the thing that somebody’s personal or machine is relating to when they’re paying less attention to those.
Brandy McLain
Yeah, and you know, I don’t think we realize too, like it’s just such a technology thing that we always have with us now is navigation, you know, when I was little, we went on vacation, you had a map. And you were looking at the freeways, but now we have such rapid like technology with us. But if I’m looking to find Dallas house, I type it in and boom, it tells me how to get there. So I think the navigation of how you get from one place to another is really changed over time, even you know, over the last 25 years, it’s rapidly changed with the use of technology.
Della Hansmann
I think that’s true. And I think now we’ll use to sort of navigate more by neighborhood and then maybe cross streets. And it was a lot more about the name of the place. And now I feel like the first thing you do is you put it into your phone or your computer windows search bar. When I, one of the things I love in technology, is when I have a new client or prospective client and someone calls me with for advice about the house, they tell me their address, and I put it in to Google and get their Zillow listing.
Della Hansmann
In like sometimes a family transfer or an off market sale won’t show up. But I get this sort of glimpse into nice set of realtor organized photographs and everything. The funny thing is, sometimes I’ll start to get suggestions that are pretty close to accurate just from the number itself before I even put in the street name or the city.
Della Hansmann
Yeah. It’s like six numbers. Yeah. Yeah, it’s I haven’t thought about it that way. But we really do live in an interconnected age when the number on a house needs to be standard, and it needs to be kind of the most important thing about the address rather than the old Thompson place on bridge lane.
Brandy McLain
Yeah, exactly. And I guess as we you know, or less as our you know, populations grow and you know, the telephone operator, as you’re saying doesn’t know every family in the community anymore. So the numbers are even more important. Do you mind?
Della Hansmann
Well, this sort of circles back around? Because I think people also well, well to do people used to also have names for their properties. Do you find when you’re selling people, Modern House members, that in addition to their required numerals, but they’re also asking for a street name, or they’re asking for like a house a nickname as part of their order. Does that happen?
Brandy McLain
We do. Yeah, typically. It’s typically an install this next to the door where they might do like a two line install with the first line being like larger maybe eight inch house numbers and then their family name or residence name if they have a nickname, as you were saying smaller, maybe like four inch letters underneath.
Brandy McLain
And we see that with like large plaques that we sell as well. But I do think that’s fun. And you know, a couple of things that we’ve done the last couple years as people had made like logos for their homes so they might not have a name for their house.
Brandy McLain
But they we did want to have like a As a graphic designer, and they had made this delicate looking palm tree for their home, and they lived in Florida, and so they wanted a couple of different plaques to put around their property of their homes logo. So that was something new I hadn’t seen before. That’s fun.
Della Hansmann
That was a really fun thing to think about creating for your house if you’re designing or if you want to engage with someone designing to make one for you. I’m sure that’s an equitable thing. Absolutely. Oh, well, this has been really interesting little history, Deep Dive.
Della Hansmann
When you were looking into the history of house numbers, did you turn up any other fun facts you wanna share?
Brandy McLain
Well, I found it interesting, like overseas, it seems like house numbers. Obviously, they’re prevalent, but they were typically smaller than in the US. And I think, you know, I was thinking about that, because their sizes were like, their standard size was quite smaller than ours.
Brandy McLain
But I was thinking about how, you know, in the US, much of our streetscapes are motor driven, were overseas a lot more air pedestrian or bike driven, and even the street West’s are much closer. So I was kind of intrigued by that when I first saw that standard being much smaller, because so there’s might be more like the, you know, two to four inch size requirements.
Brandy McLain
And then as I started to think about it, I just thought that, you know, their front yards typically overseas are much smaller or nonexistent, and it’s much more pedestrian way, then we have a lot in the US. So except in real urban areas.
Della Hansmann
Can’t that’s definitely true. And I think, you know, my era of house mid-century houses, I adore them. I’m not such a big fan of mid-century urban planning. And it was definitely an era when houses got further apart from each other. And the streets got wider, ostensibly for parking on both sides.
Della Hansmann
But then they also came in with a two car garages. So then, usually the big wide streets which kind of encourage everyone to rush and the faster you’re going and the further you are from your point of vision, the bigger you need a house number to be so you can see it as you go by. That’s definitely a thing. So yeah, interesting.
Della Hansmann
In in smaller width Street, and in a slower Thruway speed, you would need smaller house numbers, or you can get away with smaller house numbers anyway, you might want bigger ones just for aesthetic purposes anyway.
Della Hansmann
Fascinating. Well, I am such a sucker for history of all types. And this is a really interesting piece that I think we went from not needing house numbers to having a standard system to now in mid-century houses in particular, we need bigger numbers, because we’ve got these nice generous front yard setbacks and wide boulevard and streets where people kind of need to be able to see at a distance and while they’re whipping along to stop at your house.
Della Hansmann
So I really enjoyed that. It had never really occurred to me to wonder when we started using house numbers. But now of course, we live in a world where your addresses absolutely essential. How else would Amazon find you? By the way, we talked about more than history today.
Della Hansmann
And if you want to see some examples of big bold house numbers, or creative ways to put them onto your curb onto your windows onto your fences, or landscaping boulders more than that even, I’ll have those examples for you in the show notes check it out. Find those and the transcript of this episode at mid mod dash midwest.com/ 1804.
Della Hansmann
Next week on the pod I’m chatting with Adam Stevens who surpasses even me in obsessive mid-century research. He made himself familiar with the microfiche department of his library in order to check out our cable advertising about the mid-century homes and products we love so much and what was going on with them specifically in Denver back in the day. I’m really looking forward to sharing this one with you. So see you next week.